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Post by PB on Sept 13, 2016 22:06:02 GMT
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Post by simond on Sept 15, 2016 7:23:52 GMT
Intereting! Thanks for the info, Peter.
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Post by rocky14 on Sept 15, 2016 11:45:42 GMT
I take it that these will be non public transport flights.
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Post by rj on Sept 15, 2016 13:05:15 GMT
Actually sounds like a bargain at £1500 to go where you want. Although the King Air might struggle with my holidays in Tenerife, not to mention Australia next year! Lets wish them the best, the airports needs more diverse operators.
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Post by PB on Sept 15, 2016 19:47:26 GMT
Rocky 14
"Non public transport flights"... Depend perhaps how you interpret "Public transport"....
Extract from the CAA's definition of Commercial Air Transport, Public Transport and Aerial Work..
"This public transport definition has been interpreted literally as having a very wide scope.
This is intentional. It includes the typical commercial passenger carrying flight, where a
customer buys a ticket to fly from A to B on holiday or business. But it also captures a variety
of other operations. For example, if an operator is paid to carry a police observer, that
observer will be a passenger and it will be a public transport flight. Similarly where a power
company pays for its observer to be carried to inspect power lines or where a television
company pays for its camera crew to be carried it will be a public transport flight. Where an
observer or camera operator is employed by the operator, it is quite likely that the customer
will not be paying directly for their carriage so that it will not be public transport.
1.4 So the term public transport comprises both the typical commercial passenger carrying flight
and an extended range of passenger carrying operations.
1.5 European law does not use the term public transport. It uses the term commercial air
transport (CAT). This is defined as the carriage by air of passengers, mail and/or cargo for
remuneration and/or hire.
1.6 Any undertaking operating for such a purpose was required by EC Regulation 2407/92 to
hold an operating licence1
. This Regulation formed part of the “Third Package” which
liberalised air transport within the Community. It requires Community carriers carrying out
CAT to hold an operating licence – an economic approval. There are various financial and
insurance requirements which must be met to obtain such a licence. (This Regulation has
now been revoked and replaced by EC Regulation 1008/2008 but this particular requirement
is unchanged.)
1.7 Having regard to the purpose of EC Regulation 2407/92, the description of a CAT operation
has been interpreted as capturing the typical commercial passenger carrying flight but not the
other types of operation coming within public transport. (In most European countries these
other types of operation are regulated as “aerial work” rather than as a variety of public
transport or CAT.)
1.8 So we have two terms – commercial air transport which captures normal commercial
passenger operations and public transport which captures both those operations and also a
wider range of operations wherever there is payment for the carriage of a person on board an
aircraft who is neither a member of the flight crew nor cabin crew.
1.9 In the United Kingdom the Air Navigation Order contains a comprehensive set of operating
rules applicable to public transport operations. Public transport operators must hold a
national air operator’s certificate. This is a safety approval."
Extracted from the ANO..
If you're thinking of scheduled operations, the answer is "No", not yet...
RJ
You're right, the airfield does require more diversified traffic...whatever form it may take! An airfield close to London with a runway length akin to LCY is just calling out for it..??
PB
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