Post by PB on Apr 12, 2021 10:21:05 GMT
The Forum has shown interest of late looking at possible fuels to propel tomorrow's General Aviation... These comments were received by AVweb from whom we have received the 'alternative fuel' articles by their readers...What do you think??
Poll: Is Hydrogen the Future of Aviation?
If electric airplanes, carrying humans and other heavy stuff, ever become much more than a science experiment, hydrogen fuel cells will be the reason why. Chemical batteries have a weight-to-power ratio that makes them ridiculously unsuitable for much real-world aviation use, while hydrogen is lighter than air and packs a lot more energy in the same volume. It also has the potential to be much “greener” than batteries will ever be. There’s a lot more work to be done and infrastructure to be developed, but I’d put my money on hydrogen fuel cell electric aircraft revolutionizing the industry. I think battery electric planes will have niche markets for things like primary flight training and short-haul package delivery (by drone) but are unlikely to be hauling passengers across the Atlantic. – David Troup
Mobile hydrogen power (airborne or otherwise) has no engineering or scientific merit, it’s a political and venture-capital pipe-dream. – Daniel Pauls
The European Union (EU) published its first report on cryoplanes in 2003. A second study followed in 2020. Researchers at Penn State made similar proposals beginning in 2006. The main obstacle isn’t utility or cost-effectiveness but aircraft safety. Despite advances design, the risk of flammability remains high, just as it was when the Hindenburg exploded, in 1937. One disaster would shutter the whole industry. Worse yet, it would abruptly end efforts to curb pollution (CO2 emissions). The choice is not between (e.g.) high performance and fuel economy, operating expenses vs. anticipated revenues, or flying range vs. cargo and/or passenger capacity. It’s between life and death–or between fast death (fatal crash) and slow death (ecocide). The answer (if any) may lie in a third alternative–lasers. May the beam be aimed at the brain. – Dennis Rohatyn
The amount of energy required to create hydrogen fuels far exceeds the amount of energy it produces. So, it will only hold a very small niche as a useful fuel in aviation. Definitely not a market-based solution.
It is a great idea, but volumetric energy density is low, and unless it is produced from non-hydrocarbon or non-nuclear sources, the overall carbon footprint might not be much different.
Battery tech will overcome its advantages.
A crash would equal a large explosion. The attorneys will make a lot of money and kill the use of hydrogen in the air.
Can’t even get 100 unleaded.
One of several potential possibilities.
It depends on what form it’s stored in. High pressure gas is a non-starter for aircraft.
No, too expensive and difficult to store.
Bizjet-class maybe, 4-seat aircraft not likely. I don’t see such technology affordable.
I don’t think the energy density is currently plausible for hydrogen.
Yes, definitely.
I think with the electric motor and the hydrogen fuel cell would be a great step forward.
Large, scheduled aircraft (e.g. airliners), yes. Small, unscheduled, no.
Not until they can produce it cheaply from something other than petroleum.
Can you say Hindenburg?
If we can source hydrogen from clean source.
Who wants to be sitting on an H bomb? It still is a fossil production and problem.
Due to the energy consumed in extracting hydrogen, it will only be worth doing if we already have cheap, clean, and abundant energy. Which today, we do not.
I hope not.
No. It is electric propulsion.
Hydrogen has the energy density we need. If we can make it work, it will be hugely beneficial. But, the tanks are still way too heavy.
Liquid hydrocarbon fuels are the future of aviation. But they need to be manufactured sustainable fuels, not dug out of the ground.
The saying has been for years, hydrogen is the future of energy, and it always will be.
Perhaps for charging batteries while they are on the ground.
Certainly is possible.
It won’t work–too hard to store and transport.
Does the name Hindenburg ring a bell?
Hydrocarbons have been and will continue to be a part of aviation.
Unrealistic…
Not in 100 years.
It is a political answer for CO emissions and will be force fed to the aviation fleet at whatever the cost.
Fuel is fuel. As long as it is available, high energy:mass ratio, cheap, safe, who cares?
Sounds like a lot of methane to me.
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